Podaj inzerát a daruj notebook podvodníkom
Minulý týždeň som podal rovnaký inzerát na 2 slovenské inzertné portály. Na moje prekvapenie som do 5 minút dostal prvú odpoveď, od angličana.
Jeho mail bol jasný, chce kúpiť môj notebook pre svojho synovca ktorý je na štúdiu v Nigérií. Osobne ma samozrejme vôbec nezaujíma pre koho môj notebook kupujúci chce a myslím si že v našich končinách nie je zvyklé predávajúcemu vysvetlovať ako chceme s ponúkaným tovarom naložiť. Ešte väčšmi ma však zauajal údajný pôvod záujemcu. Prečo by akýkoľvek angličan kupoval používaný notebook zo Slovenska? A k tomu ešte preto aby ho následne poslal do Nigérie.
V hlave sa mi vynorilo príliš veľa otázok a nenachádzal som iné logické vysvetlenie ako to, že ide o podvod. Napriek tomu som však z čistého záujmu pokračoval a snažil som sa pôsobiť prirodzene. Prikladám celú mailovú komunikáciu so záujemcom (samozrejme som z pochopiteľných dôvôdov cenzúroval svoje údaje).
Pôvodná odozva záujemcu (prvý mail)
Dear seller, I am Mr Micheal Raymond from the united kingdom,i want to buy this item as a birthday gift for my cousin who is over there in Nigeria,Iwill be paying you through my bank here in the United Kingdom so do take this as a matter of urgency.Get back to me if you are willing to sell with the total cost and shipping to Him over there.Have a peaceful business week. Regards
Hi, I am willing to sell my notebook, however shipping cost to Nigeria from Slovakia is far too expensive, in fact it would be even more than notebook itself. I suggest you to look at some Nigerian's local stores. Regards
Thanks for the mail, Well i am very busy over here in the uk so i will want you to sell this notebook to me.Do let me have the specifications of the laptop.I have an account with the fedex in which you will not have to pay for the shipment.I will be paying yo through my bank account overhere in the uk so i will want you to give me the total cost of the notebook and your full bank details so i can proceed with the payment. Hope o hear from you soon.
Moja odpoveď:Špecifikácia bola napísaná už v samotnom inzeráte, rozumiem to tak že ju ani nevidel.
Specification: Acer TravelMate 2304NLC Intel Celeron M processor(1.4GHz, 400MHz FSB, 512KB L2 cache),15.0 XGA TFT LCD,40GB HDD, CD-RW,512MB RAM, Intel 854GM, 3x USB, VGA out, LAN 10/100Mbps, MODEM, PCMCIA WiFi Bank details: account number: *********** bank core: **** Swift code: ********
Fill it in this order so i can proceed with the payment. Bank Name: Bank Address: Iban Number: Account Number: Bic or Swift Code: I will like you to package the item as gift.... Awaiting for your swift response... Best Reagards
Bank Name: *********** Bank Address: ********* Iban Number: ********************************** Account Number: ************** Bic or Swift Code: ************ Notebook will be ready in package as soon as I will recieve payment to my account. Let me know about shipping etc. Regards
Thanks for the mail, Here below is the shipping information of my cousin: Name:Adedeji Olalekan Address:No 54 Adenle Avenue mokola City:Ibadan State:Oyo State Country:Nigeria Zipcode:23402 Tel:2348063063656. I will be expecting your full contact address so i can arrange for the pickup. i will proceed with the payment in the bank this morning. The bank will contact you as soon the payment is approved. Regards Micheal Raymond
Hi, my full address is: Name: ****** ******** Street: ************ City: *********** Zipcode: ***** Country: Slovakia I also forget to send you total cost, so: 10.000 SKK / 48,963 = 204.23 GBP or 10.000 SKK / 33,906 = 294.93 EUR.
Good, Just want to confirm if you will be around by 9-10 am tomorrow because i will schedule the pickup tomorrow morning when i finish making the payment in the bank. I just called my bank manager to know you have giving me the full needed info. Hope to hear from you soon.
Yes, I will be available tomorrow morning, however, I will give the notebook to FedEx guy only in case I will be notiefied from my bank that I've recived money. I am affraid that trans-national money transfer takes more than 1 day.
Hello, The bank will contact you immediately they confirm the payment tomorrow morning.You will be notify.I will be in the bank very early and make the payment so by 10 am the fedex man will come for the package.You must have receive a confirmation of the payment made. So i think there is no problem. I hope you understand this well. Micheal
I will trust only my bank, so once I recieve notification from them, I am ready to send package. Confirmation from other bank (or person) is irrelevant to me. I belive you understand my attitude. Regards
Well i understand you and one more thing i wnt you to know is that this is a international transaction in which the transfer will take up to 24-48 hours.But ones it is done the bank will notify you money is in process in to your account.
Ja - finále:
International transactions are not processed the way you described it, and you will receive no notification from your bank until they receive money from the sender's bank. I must also say that your order is highly suspicious since beginning. Self called British (with bad grammar) is ordering notebook from Slovakia (without any knowledge of language), while he has a lot of better offers in Britain. You asked me for specifications, but they were already in advertisement. You did not care about price at all and you didn't notice me that I forget to write it for you. I believe that I won't receive any money, I also believe that there is some organized group with simple interest in getting goods without paying and that you rely on naivity of victims. Just a few minutes ago I received email from another British guy, who is willing to buy my notebook, but this time for his son. This is quite ludicrous. You should know that I will alert my friends and other people who are advertising on Slovak portals and I am also considering about notifying local authorities. PS: Consider my offer as canceled.
Dnes som dostal mail z údajnej banky Citi Bank, ktorá mala svojím názvom pripomínať existujúcu Citibank. Správa bola v HTML formáte a aby sa zachovala čo najvernejšia podoba, nevložil som ju priamo sem ale nájdete ju tu.
Chvíľu potom mi prišiel ďaľší mail od záujemcu. Zjavne plne ignoroval môj posledný mail a vôbec naň nereagoval.
Hello, I just came back from the bank and i tried to schedule the pick up,I was told it cant be made here.So here below is the Fedex Account Number(393186763) in which you will just go to the fedex outlet and drop the package without paying any money.You will fill the waybill and bill the shipping to the account .Hope you understand my concern. I hope to do more business with you. Regards Micheal Raymond
Včera som na moje prekvapenie dostal ešte jednu odozvu na inzerát, tentokrát samozrejme od niekoho úplne iného. Zaújímalo prečo práve Slovensko, a tak som sa opýtal.
Dear seller, Mrs Mabel Flora Is My Name From United Kingdom,I'm interested in Buying your Item . What is the present condition and how much do you want to sell it last?I'm buying it urgently for son programmed in college.and am buying 2 pieces of the item so kindly let me know how many pieces you have For sale or Anyother item maybe i can still bought it from you. I am ready to pay for the item immediately do kindly get to me back with the total cost of the item and also let me Know if you Have Anyother Item For Sale .I will be making payment via bank to bank transfer. Do provide your info for immediate payment: Account name,Account Number, Bank Name, Bank address, bank code: alongside your response..while you also provide me the cost of the shipment through(DHL/FEDEX 2-3Days) and i want you to reply me back in English and don't forget to send me your real e-mail and you can also reply me back to email@example.com ........... Awaiting to hear from you soon.thanks...........
Why r u ordering notebook from Slovakia and not from UK? I am just curious.
Hello , Thanks for the mail and i will like to tell you that Mrs Mabel Flora is my Name from United kingdom and i will like you to go ahead and calculate the total cost of the item including the shipping cost via DHL 2-3 Days Delivery to my son in for is programmed in college and send me the information below for the transfer to be made fully Here is the Information Needed For Payment: Account Holder Name Account Number Bank Name Bank Address However this is my son Shipping address: Name: Abiola Adekunle Address: 45 adelaja street mokola City : Ibadan State : Oyo State Zipcode; 23402 Country: Nigeria Telephone: +234829201721 Awaiting to Hear From you.
I am not willing to sell you my notebook, unless you explain my why are you ordering it from foreign country. PS: I don't care who are buying it for.
Hello seller, Thanks for the Mail, I will Like to tell you that my son told me he want the Notebook to be buy from slovakia that all his Friends bought their own too in slovakia that is why i have to contact you for that... Regards..
Myslím že ide o ukážkový podvod, bohužiaľ existuje asi množstvo ľudí ktorý sa nechajú nachytať. Tak naozaj neviem koho by som mal na túto aktivitu upozorniť, k žiadnemu zločinu totiž nedošlo, azda len porušenie nejakých copyrightov Citibanku. Ak máte nápad koho by som mal upozorniť alebo kontaktovať, prosím dajte mi vedieť na môj mail.